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Edon Cookies - Changes

Posted: 01 May 2018, 14:23
by kittycatArcane
Many apologies for the long silence about this. A decision has finally been reached!

You may notice that the amount of cookies being dispensed is not in as high of numbers as before - but by the same token, what you can get and for how much has also gone down. Cookies will still be a go-to reward that can be handed out at the discretion of a DM if they like something you've done.
A note for crafters: You can and will be retroactively granted the cookies for your crafting skills that are already at level 20. Just PM me or post here with screenshotted proof of your level 20 skill(s) via your Tradeskill Journal.

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AWARDS:
  • 1 cookie for a DM witnessed player action worthy of note.
  • 1 cookie for a player that creates an adventure session that engages other players.
  • 1 cookie per 20 levels in crafting.
  • 2 cookies for creating Dev content if it is opened to the players (e.g. maps, items, etc.)
  • 2 cookies for winning a DM organized event. (1 cookie for 2nd place)
REWARDS
  • 1 cookie for 5000 xp or 25k gold
  • 1 cookie for 10 levels delevel and relevel. (1-5 levels is free and does not require a cookie.)
  • 1 cookie for 1 minor rune; 3 cookies for 1 intermediate rune; 9 cookies for 1 major rune.
  • 1 cookie for 1 greater gem; 3 cookies for 1 peerless gem; 9 cookies for 1 superlative gem.
  • 3 cookies for an appearance mod (wings/tail/VFX). You may request a "2-for-1" deal to get both wings+tail while still only spending 3 cookies - the stipulation is they must be the same type [i.e. demon wings + demon tail]. If you wish to add one at a later date, you will spend more cookies.)
  • 3 cookies for a full character rebuild.
  • 5 cookies for a unique skin. (This must be applied for with a backstory and approved by DMs.)
  • 20 cookies for any green item.
  • 30 cookies for a permanent statue or item placed in the server.
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A note on unique skins: There are some stipulations to this reward, which will be covered in their own section in the Monster Skin Application thread. (I am aware there isn't one right this moment - I'm going to fix that shortly.)

And finally... for those of you who aren't about to get a whole bunch of cookies for your maxed out crafting levels, I am going to be going around and personally giving out cookies to everyone I can catch as a token of appreciation for bearing with us to this point through the server migration and other changes. Y'all are the lifeblood to this server, and without you, there isn't a living Edon. :happy-jumpgreen:

Re: Edon Cookies - Changes

Posted: 01 May 2018, 16:18
by Sapphire
A few questions about this ... I did note in the update that cookies were no longer to be found in some quest being completed or in particular certain levels in the scourge token levels... Is this to return ? Having a character that already has a couple of cookies this way will they still be valid ?

Are we to be allowed to transfer numbers of tokens between our characters ? To try and achieve what one character alone can not do alone in numbers of cookies ...

FInally are these new costs/reward structure going to appear on the cookies we already have in their description as cuurently the previous costs/reward structure is still there in its description ?

Re: Edon Cookies - Changes

Posted: 01 May 2018, 16:39
by Alkarl
Everything I say may be incorrect, however...

As far as I know any cookies already gained will not be removed but I don't think they'll be returning as a quest reward.

I used to transfer cookies between characters, don't see why not - I'd want to see all the cookies first though.
You cannot transfer cookies between players.

The in-game cookie description will eventually be changed, pretty sure it requires a hak update.

Re: Edon Cookies - Changes

Posted: 01 May 2018, 16:44
by Iona
Well done "stands in line for 22cookies". Iona and Islay both have 20 levels in crafting.

Re: Edon Cookies - Changes

Posted: 01 May 2018, 17:55
by Fraggermuffin
Alkarl wrote:
01 May 2018, 16:39
I used to transfer cookies between characters, don't see why not - I'd want to see all the cookies first though.
Aren't they non-drop?

Re: Edon Cookies - Changes

Posted: 01 May 2018, 18:49
by Gotrek1966
Fraggermuffin wrote:
01 May 2018, 17:55
Alkarl wrote:
01 May 2018, 16:39
I used to transfer cookies between characters, don't see why not - I'd want to see all the cookies first though.
Aren't they non-drop?
Correct, players will need to contact a DM to have cookies taken from one character and be given to another character. A cookie topic will be in place in Admin area to ensure records of cookie transfers as well as receiving and using said cookies.

Re: Edon Cookies - Changes

Posted: 05 May 2018, 13:31
by Fraggermuffin
Might I suggest a cookie for achieving level 40?

Re: Edon Cookies - Changes

Posted: 05 May 2018, 14:37
by Iona
Yes and how about Epic Crafter and Mythic Crafter while we are at it. Might encourage some more mythic crafting although i think a
Superlative Gem is more the apt reward for Mythic Crafter hehe.

Re: Edon Cookies - Changes

Posted: 05 May 2018, 14:58
by Sapphire
How about a peerless along with each title for a crafter and then a superlative for the 10th and last level (or mythic) ... Given that superlatives still do not seem to be dropping at all and even peerless are extremely rare ...

Re: Edon Cookies - Changes

Posted: 05 May 2018, 15:16
by southead
Sapphire wrote:
05 May 2018, 14:58
How about a peerless along with each title for a crafter and then a superlative for the 10th and last level (or mythic) ... Given that superlatives still do not seem to be dropping at all and even peerless are extremely rare ...
It took me 15 years to find my first Superlative, I have found 3 in the 3 months since... go figure. Peerless, however, I find 2-3 a day farming.

Re: Edon Cookies - Changes

Posted: 06 May 2018, 03:47
by Sapphire
Lucky you ... I am only finding like 1 peerless about every 2 weeks and not got a superlative at all...

Re: Edon Cookies - Changes

Posted: 07 May 2018, 12:10
by André Axe'm
I'm intending on giving out some rewards for handing in war supplies.

Re: Edon Cookies - Changes

Posted: 07 May 2018, 19:03
by Sapphire
Think that would be a good idea ... But what of those of us that have achieved certain levels and handed in 1000's of war supplies as counted by the quartermaster ?

Re: Edon Cookies - Changes

Posted: 07 May 2018, 21:28
by André Axe'm
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Well obviously I was going to penalise you for your diligence and make you start behind everyone else, so that you would have to hand in 1000's more war supplies before you get a reward.

Re: Edon Cookies - Changes

Posted: 08 May 2018, 03:11
by Sapphire
LOL @ Andre

Re: Edon Cookies - Changes

Posted: 08 May 2018, 11:24
by Iona
Tis possible, Andre has a fiendish mind Lol

Re: Edon Cookies - Changes

Posted: 31 May 2018, 16:08
by Iona
Oops forgot to post.

Thank you Kitty for all the yummy Cookies, munch munch, taste good hehe

Re: Edon Cookies - Changes

Posted: 06 Sep 2018, 11:01
by Iona
My next crafter Tiree Le'tent now has 20 lvls in all crafts. Some of your yummy cookies please Kitty when you have the time.

Iona

Re: Edon Cookies - Changes

Posted: 07 Sep 2018, 07:59
by Sapphire
André Axe'm wrote:
07 May 2018, 12:10
I'm intending on giving out some rewards for handing in war supplies.
Any update on this ... Just wondering as it has been a while ...

Re: Edon Cookies - Changes

Posted: 07 Sep 2018, 10:47
by André Axe'm
No updates, no time.

Re: Edon Cookies - Changes

Posted: 28 Sep 2018, 10:25
by Iona
Thank you for the cookies Kitty.

Re: Edon Cookies - Changes

Posted: 17 Jan 2019, 16:33
by Iona
Jura has achieved 20 in all crafts, may she have some of you r delicious cookies please Kitty?

Re: Edon Cookies - Changes

Posted: 19 Jan 2019, 14:47
by Iona
Yum yum, thank you Alkarl.

Re: Edon Cookies - Changes

Posted: 21 Feb 2019, 15:44
by vorly
Sorry for the necro, I need to give my 2 cents.

I don't like the cookie changes, they don't make sense with what you're trying to encourage on the server. Are you encouraging people to play and interact or sit in the crafting area only leaving to collect materials?

The changes encourage crafting over everything else, now before I get crucified crafting should receive cookies. Does it need to be 6x more than someone creating dev content for the server? Or 12x more than someone running a RP session for all players on the server? Currently it's a crafting boom, people making multiple crafters for their 12 cookies *gimme* *gimme*.

It would be nice for crafters to get involved in other ways, a traveling shop/merchant available certain times in certain areas selling goods? A bit of RP flavour to get your extra cookies?

What would've been nice is crafters getting 3-4 cookies once they hit 20 in all their crafts not 1 cookie for 20 in one craft... That's still 3-4x what an adventurer gets and isn't subject to abuse.

I also don't like the idea of cookies being exchange for gold but that's neither here no there.

In conclusion, as an adventure I feel i'm getting the shaft because I don't have the time nor the desire to subject myself to the tedium or RSI that is crafting. I can only drag things from bags for so long before my wrist starts hurting...

Vorly.

Re: Edon Cookies - Changes

Posted: 21 Feb 2019, 17:05
by Iona
When we had a poll about cookies I voted no as I thought there were more apt ways of rewarding. But the majority wanted to keep them so be it.

When you have achieved 20 in all crafts would be a more apt time to criticise the effort entailed. Tis a long haul.

As to the RP, that got a big ding when everyone decided to make a crafter (double xp) and cut the interaction between genuine crafters and adventurers. I rarely get a commission now below high level stuff, mainly mythic stuff.

Yes I do have 4 crafters, they all have cookies which I have not used (will probably end up using them for gems), because I love crafting and miss the great RP we used to have in the workshop. A lot of things have changed, some for the good and some not. But entering into a comparison between adventurers and crafters is not in the best interest I feel. I could go on about the low points in Mythic crafting for instance. But I think Andre is trying to sort things out a bit better.

Lastly with Osteoarthritis and Carpal Tunnel Syndrome I definately know about sore wrists and hands but because I love this wonderful world of Edon I work around it.

Iona