Bicketybam wrote: ↑29 May 2018, 15:29
Didn't they account for those billions when deciding on how good their NBN plan would be over Labors plan???
The plan was never to provide equivalent service over time as rolling out FTTN and filling in HFC areas costs tens of billions and then almost everything done has to be ripped up and replaced in the transition to FTTP which would cost tens of billions more.
The nation's needs and economics never came into it, it was sheer political bastardy to destroy what was perceived as a Labor initiative.
First major rains of the year and like clockwork FTTN was dead for 3+ hours this mourning then NBN had to shape connection down to 12/1 to prevent constant dropouts. NBN claim the fault will be resolved by close of business day tomorrow but considering there are no spare copper pairs in the area and my current pair is corroded beyond repair I am not holding my breath.
I remember back in the day they would tell people to keep a fixed landline to backup unreliable mobile reception, we've regressed to the point they now tell people to keep a mobile service to backup unreliable fixed line services.
Mugsy wrote: ↑29 May 2018, 15:50
Parents have gotten notice for NBN works on the apartment complex. Will need to start find a cheap entry level NBN plan for them. Haven't seen anything at the $40/mth price point they're currently paying for adsl.
There is very few plans available at that price point and be careful as many cheap providers have very bad congestion in peak times.
Given the constant cost blowouts with the trashworks the NBN is rolling out they are attempting to force users onto higher revenue and higher speed plans regardless of whether end technology can actually achieve the rated speeds of said plans.
Just because the service can achieve x/x sync rate on activation does not mean days, weeks, months, years later that speed will be possible and because there is no whetting current on FTTN the physical copper breaks down quicker over time than traditional Plain Old Telephone Service.
kharis wrote: ↑29 May 2018, 16:20
node has started construction by my parents back fence, can't wait to see how much degradation they get over 20m of copper from the node
Copper often doesn't travel in a straight line from a pillar/node, it often has a bundle run then fans out which is why some people 100+ meters from a node have better performance than people right next to the node whose line travels from the pillar to the fan point then back to the premises near the node.
storm84 wrote: ↑29 May 2018, 16:52
I've gotten an email and SMS from iiNet today telling me I didn't need to switch to NBN because my VDSL2 connection is better. I'm confused as to why they needed to send that - like I'm going to switch to FTTN unless I absolutely have no other choice.
iiVDSL and other proper VDSL networks were designed with shorter copper runs.
The Telstra Copper Access Network NBN are working with was mostly designed and rolled out when phone services were the only service provided with very long copper runs often the result.
NBN generally choose the cheapest option by placing nodes within a hundred meters of the pillar so some people even on the shortest lines from a pillar can struggle to reach 100/40.
For example the distance between my node and pillar is ~40 meters and the shortest possible line in the area would be well over 50 meters (they use Telstra Business 100mbit fibre as NBN 100/40 FTTN was too unreliable) with ~95% of lines over 400 meters. Very thick copper pairs in the area but they are over 70 years old so despite being on one of the shortest runs at 400 meters I could only achieve 67/32 with constant Seamless Rate Adaptation changes manifesting as constant dropouts so I downgraded to 50/20 to get a stable connection and now my connection can't even provide a stable 25/5.
